The Final Chapter of the 5 Dons Interview • Chapter 2

The Final Chapter of the 5 Dons Interview

What else will make the Gathering this year so spectacular other than the stuff we already know about?

Alex Abbiss Continues…

For one thing, I’m sure that all wrestling fans will be geeked up to know that the world’s most hardcore and ruthless wrestler of all time will be there. Of course I’m talking about the one and only Sabu. No disrespect to Mic Foley, but even he will tell you about the insanity of Sabu. Sabu is going to wrestle on all three days. Also, Vampiro will be wrestling all three days as well as Mad Man Pondo, Fat Fuck Barrel Boy, Horn Swagglin Hillbilly, Tom Dub, Patrick, and all the usual JCW greats. Look for the super main event of Sabu vs. Vampiro! That match will be their first ever match against each other!

As far as concert fans, you might just get surprised! We are talkin’ with 2 Live Crew, Biohazzard, Krazy Bone, and more! You never know who might pop up out of nowhere.

Billy Bill adds…

As for new shit, what else could you possibly ask for? You got the Gathering version of the Dark Lotus album; you got the 8 CD box set containing all the episodes of The Juggalo Radio show. You fuckin’ got all that plus the biggest shit of them all… Morton’s List!

Alex Abbiss…

Before we get into that, let me explain what The Juggalo Show is to the ninjas that don’t know. In 1998, ICP and Twiztid had a very secret radio show that aired once a month here in Detroit. The show only lasted 3 episodes. The station was The Edge, 105.1. After 3 episodes ICP was kicked off the air. It didn’t matter though because soon after that, the whole station went out of business!

But history is history, and the history is that somehow they actually let ICP and Twiztid air a 2 hour show once a month. Of course, the time slot The Edge gave The Juggalo Show sucked dick. It aired on the first Sunday night of every month at Midnight. In other words, nobody was listening. None the less, the show was funny as hell and it has some of the most outrageous skits I’ve ever heard. The guys play some of the craziest music and get into fights with each other and all that. As for Jamie Madrox doing funny voices and characters, he will blow your mind with this shit! ICP even interviews music stars like George Clinton, and Vinny from Sponge, and more.

Well, the show was great while it lasted, but as soon as the show was booted off the air that was it. The Juggalo Show was gone forever…

Billy Bill Jumps In…

Until now. We have decided that a show that funny should be heard by all Juggalos that want it. 8 CD’s in one collection that contains every last bit of all 3 Juggalo shows in their fuckin’ entirety! Plus this box set also includes the never before aired 4^th episode. Its true! Nobody ever heard the 4^th episode because the show was cancelled before it could even air. Well, you can hear it now! This 8 CD box set will be another exclusive collectible that will be available at the Gathering of the Juggalos. If that ain’t the shit, I don’t know what is…

Jumpsteady jumps in…

I do… I know what is also available at the Gathering that is the shit too. It’s called Morton’s List. 7 years in the making and it’s finally coming out. My partners and me have been putting in work on this project for so long that it’s amazing to me that it’s finally coming out. 8 years ago when I first took this job at Psychopathic Records, it wasn’t a big company like it is now. In fact, it was barely anything but a dream. Our dream. My pay was 50 bucks a week. My only goal was to see Psychopathic succeed! I have since reached that goal. Well, now that the Hatchet is going into it’s 10^th year of business, I feel it’s time we expand even more! I’m not yet satisfied. I want to see Psychopathic expand beyond music, movies, comics, and all that. Even more! I want to see it expand into a way of life! I want to see this company provide so many fresh things to do for Juggalos, and we could one day end boredom forever! Well, we believe that our new invention is a major step in that direction. A game to end all boredom for Juggalos. It is called Morton’s List. Me and my partners Nathan and Tall Jess have been working on this project forever. Sure enough, at the year’s Gathering it is finally coming out. You can go to www. MortonsList.com (after May 1^st) to read what it is all about. All I will say right now about it is that Psychopathic always talking about building a life style for Juggalos, and this is a great start. This will give real Juggalos everywhere something to do on boring days for the rest of their lives! This will never EVER get old. The realm of Morton’s List runs deep into the Dark Carnival. Believe that.

Alex Abbiss…

Morton’s list is an example of the future of Psychopathic Records, flat out. I’m betting many Juggalos will be completely into this game. Of course, after it is released, thousands of imitation versions of Morton’s List will start popping up everywhere, just like with everything else we do. But they will all fall far beneath the standards and heart put into the one and only REAL Morton’s List.

Billy Bill…

Besides all the new shit at this years Gathering… you want a surprise? We got a surprise for that azz. A monster fuckin’ surprise. We’re gonna drop news that will shake the very foundation of the Juggalos world. Even without the megaton surprise we are about to drop on y'all, look at everything else the Gathering has going on… It’s incredible. You would have to be a loonie to not want to posse up with your crew and drive in a convoy all the way down to Toledo. I’d wanna drive there if it was on Venus.

Jelly Nuts Adds…

Go to www.juggalogathering.com for more info.

What is this major surprise?

Violent J answers…

The Major surprise is that your mom has a dick and a neden. She hides the dick in her butt though. Only your dad knows about it. Well, actually me and your dad both know about it. But that’s it.

Look man, this surprise as we’re calling it, don’t mean more to anybody than it does to me and Shaggy. This ain’t no fuckin’ birthday cake present surprise mother fucka. This is some real shit. I just hope I can keep it together to talk about it.

Shaggy adds…

We will tell you when we are ready to tell you. We have our whole summer planned out. It’s fat packed with surprises. Let me just drop a few on that ass for ay Juggalos that might be reading this… The first is this: Ninjas always ask when will ICP and Twiztid tour again together. My answer is this. We are always together. Even when we are across the country from each other, we are still together, bitch.

Violent J jumps back in…

But if that won’t do, how about this? In October, year I know that seems like a long time away but let me finish. In October, we are going to launch the biggest tour in the history of Psychopathic Records. Here is the line up and it’s already fuckin’ final. No charges will be made. How is it already final? Because there ain’t any outsiders on the show… it’s all family on this one. We’ve said that before, but this time word is bond. We’ve all freed up our time and we’re going to make it happen. The tour is called… and wait, this is the first time you’re hearing this anywhere… the tour is called… “The Hatchet Rising Tour”.

Here are the bands on the tour. First, as the curtain opens you will see a super hype set of Marz, and he rips a hole in your heads. Let me just say this to anyone out there that wants to doubt on Marz, check this out. I remember hanging Twiztid banners at our shows and yelling Twiztid all night at every concert and introducing them on stage and doing whatever we could to get Juggalos to take notice to them. Most Juggalos back then just turned their heads and went and got a soda or something. Look at Twiztid now! Now you finally realize how dope their shit is… Well Juggalos… DON’T SLEEP ON MARZ. Don’t let it go by you now. When you see Marz and ICP on stage together, take notice, because on day you’ll wanna see it again as bad as you wanna see us and Twiztid together again.

Shaggy…

Just get on with the fuckin’ tour. My ass hurts from sittin’ here so long.

Violent J again…

Ok… After Marz flips your wigs off, before you even have time to turn around and pick them up, Blaze and his home Anybody Killa take stage. BOOM! Blaze is droppin’ shit from his brand new album and rockin’ the fuckin’ house. Juggalos are loving that shit. All of a sudden after Blaze raises the dead, out of nowhere comes… TWIZTID!!! Jamie Madrox and Monoxide Boogie take the stage and blow the roof off the building making it an outdoor venue all the sudden. Just when you can’t take anymore… Just when your ribs are broken and your jaw is knocked loose from moshin’, here comes INSANE CLOWN POSSE. Not to suck my own dick or anything, but y’all know that after Marz, Blaze and Twiztid’s set, a cold Faygo shower would do you good right about the.

So… after all that. The venue is destroyed, you are destroyed, you think your butt might have got poked somewhere in the mosh pit somehow, and your just about dead. Just when you are turning around to go home, the stage lights turn back off? What? Who? What? Who is it? Who could follow all that up? Is it? Madonna singing Chicken Huntin? Is it? Kurt Kobain doing the headless Boogie? It is… Dr Dre with his dick up Eminem’s ass? No… it is none other than DARK LOTUS!!! THE HATCHET RIZING TOUR!!!

Alex Abbiss interrupts…

Alright, alright. Whatever. Calm down. But Juggalos, this is no lie, no exsaturation, and no bullshit. This tour will start this October in Canada for 8 dates, and when we hit the US. The first US city will be Seattle. One of the stops on this massive tour is of course the Hallowicked Clown Show which this year takes place at Cobo Arena in Detroit. No lie. It’s going down. After the “Hatchet Rizing Tour” finally ends in December. You Juggalos can finally have time to relax. Enjoy some eggnog. Ride a fuckin’ reindeer around the winter wonderland. Do whatever you like to do for the Holidays. Because come 2002… It’s all over. Wait a minute… You are talking about a tour that starts in October? What about May, June, July, and August? That’s 4 months. What will Psychopathic be up to during those 4 months?

Billy Bill explains…

OK. First up is May. Right now. Juggalos can go see ICP, Marz, and Blaze all live together in concert on the second leg of the Bizzar Bizaar tour. Not only will you get to see an incredible show, but you also get a free Psychopathic sampler. The sampler gots shit from ICP, DL, Blaze, and Marz. All you got to do is show up in face paint, reppin’ the Juggalo love and you get the fresh ass sampler. The sampler also gots a brand new full song of ICP & Marz together. The Bizzar Bizaar tour will sweep the us one more time before heading to Australia. This is your last chance to see it. The tour is playing much smaller towns than we did on the first leg, but that’s just so every mudda fuckin’ body gets to see the tour! Even small town Juggalos!

Jump Steady jumps in…

After May, you got June. For the month of June, Twiztid hits the road and does the same thing. Twiztid has a new show and a new set that’s guaranteed to get Juggalos on their feet. So once again Juggalos can come out and see Psychopathic do it’s thing live as Twiztid sweeps the nation for the Twiztid Juggalos. And if you missed the Bizzar Bizaar tour, that’s ok, you can pick up that new sampler at Twiztid’s shows as well. Jug paint up like Jamie Madrox or Monox Boogie and it’s yours.

After June it’s July. The month of the Gathering. You already know what that means. There is a shit load of brand new shit that hits the shelves that we already talked about. July might as well be considered Juggalo Month as far as I am concerned.

Now, as for August… You would probably think Psychopathic might take a long Caribbean vacation or something. You know, maybe take a summer cruise, eat a few coconuts or whatever. Well, fuck all that shit.

Billy Bill says…

Yup. Juggalo love is all year round. The only way we’d go to the Bahamas is if we could bring y’all. So, yup, you guessed it, we got some shit for August too. In fact, for august we have a dope ass plan. We’re going to do a giant instore tour! Who you ask? ICP instores? Twiztid instores? Blaze? Marz? Nope… ALL OF THEM!!!

Alex Abbiss…

Yes, it’s true. During the month of August, just one month before the massive “Hatchet Rising Tour” hits the road, the entire Dark Lotus family will climb into a bus and head to record store, after record store, to sign autographs. All across the country. If you can’t make it to the Gathering, at least you can still meet Dark Lotus. It’s like this… If you can’t come to us, then we’ll come to you.

For four weeks Lotus will tour the US and meet Juggalos face to face on what we are calling the “Lotus Grows Tour”. They won’t be doing any concerts though, they’ll just be signing autographs, taking pictures and maybe a few surprise BBQ’s. You know us.

There is also a lot of talk that for August that we might run a few JCW shows here and there just for the fun of it. Everybody here at Psychopathic loves puttin’ on JCW shows and what would summer be without a few? Plus, now that WWF owns everything, we can scoop up all the left over talent!

JCW is a possibility, but the instore is a definite. All of August you can meet Dark mutha fuckin’ Lotus in person. Believe that.

And what about the super surprise?

Violent J…

“What about the super surprise? What about the super surprise?” You sound like a lil bitch. Let me tell you a story, bitch. I remember when we first released the 1^st Joker’s Card. Carnival of Carnage. It was the very same version that everybody has now. Only back then, nobody hat it, nobody wanted it, and nobody cared. That record barely, and I mean barely sold 2000 copies that whole year. Even out of them 2000 copies, body was asking when the 2^nd Jokers Card was coming out. The truth is, nobody gave a fuck.

Well, here we are, years and years later. We dropped all but the 6^th. We also dropped countless collectibles, short EP’s collection CDs, bootlegs, albums under different names, we’ve done it all. We have no complaints. We never been to any Grammy’s, or American Music Awards. We never been to nothing like that. The only Hollywood party we ever been to was by accident. We just walked in and got kicked out. But God as my witness, we have no complaints.

Anyway, what I’m trying to say is this… From the very first day, Shaggy, Alex, Jump, Billy, and myself have always had a plan for the 6^th Jokers Card. We always wondered what things would be like in the world when it’s time to put it out. We can now answer that question. Just look around you. Because it is time.

Yo, I’m sorry Juggalos. But a big part of that plan is not telling anybody jack shit! However… Talking is talking, but showing is different.

Listen very carefully… on Sunday night, July 15^th, the very last day of the Gathering 2001… Those who attend that night’s big concert, which features Vanilla Ice, Three 6 Mafia, The Psychopathic Rydas, and ICP, will be burned with an eternal image that will haunt them for 12 long months. This image will remain burned into their minds until they can again see it.

If you don’t understand… here is your fuckin’ big, big, big, news in plain English…

At the very end of ICP’s set, which is also the very closing of the Gathering of the Juggalos 2001… Something major will happen. Just as the show is ending and the major Faygo war is about to take place… From high above the stage will drop a giant banner. Juggalos, be prepared, for on this banner will be a version of the almighty…

6^th JOKERS CARD!!!!!

The 5 Dons end by saying this…

If you are still conscious after seeing the devastating vision of the 6^th for the first time EVER, then lets all get your Faygo war on like only Juggalos can!

For everybody reading this, you know that we have mad love you. Peace, and see you at the Gathering, the Bizzar Bizaar Tour, Twiztid's tour, The Lotus Grows Tour, and yet, the Hatchet Rising Tour! Peace ninjas!

The 5 Dons Drop Bombs on Yo Moms • Chapter 2

 • JUGGALOGICAL • 

 • INTERVIEWS • 

What was Bizzar Bizaar? Was that a big stall for the 6th Jokers Card?

Violent J answers...

First let me say that who ever asked this question was smart not to ask it to my face. This question almost calls for a smack. Bizzar Bizaar were the absolute best records we have done. That’s what I feel. I mean I personally like the Joker’s Cards better because they have meaning behind them. The Carnival’s magic is strong. Plus they have a theme to follow, which is always fun in the studio. But Bizzar Bizaar as a free standing double album I think was the very best we have ever done. You all might think I’m crazy but if you really listen with an open ear, and don’t doubt it before you even play it, you just might agree!

People say that Bizzar and Bizaar were soft and not like the early days of ICP. Is this true in your eyes?

Violent J says...

Let me address this. Many, many people out there have said that ICP has gotten softer over the years and our shit is not as hard as it used to be. Well hey, I also have my own favorite groups out there and I know just how you feel. For me, NWA’s 1st album "Straight Outta Compton" seems 10 times harder than NWA’s 2nd album "Niggas4life." Even though NWA cusses twice as much and kills twice as many people on their 2nd album, the 1st still seems harder! Why? Because their 1st album was the very first time I EVER HEARD them rap! I was shocked by it! By the time their 2nd album came out, it was just more of the same shocking stuff. So it seemed less shocking to me. Now that I’ve figured it all out, I went back and studied both the NWA albums and I now think they are both HARD AS FUCK.…

So yo, please Juggalos. Do me a favor.… For everyone who says we’re getting softer as we go, I want you all to really REALLY think about what you’re saying. Is Bizzar and Bizaar really softer than the old shit? Or is it that we can only shock you so many times? How many times can we say that we eat dead bodies before it ain’t shocking to you any more? Well it ain’t shocking anymore, therefore I don’t really say it anymore. I already said it!

I have no question in my mind that if our albums were released in a backwards order most people would still be saying the same thing. They would all still say that we’re getting softer as we go. If we released Bizzar in 1991 and we called it the 1st Jokers Card, everybody would love it. Then if we released the other Bizaar as the 2nd Jokers Card in 1993 you would all love that too. Then if this year in 2001 we released "Carnival Of Carnage" and "Ringmaster" as a double album, I believe most people would still be telling me that we’re getting softer as we go. That is my true belief.

Shaggy adds....

The reason most people think were getting softer is because the older stuff is the first time you heard us! That was the 1st time anybody heard us talking like that! Just like the Rodney King beatings, after the 100th time watching it, it all becomes less shocking to you. Well after hearing 8 ICP albums of BLOOD, GUTS, AND MURDER, the new shit is less shocking even though it contains just as much BLOOD GUTS AND MURDER!

No we don’t think ICP is getting any softer, we just think you Juggalos are getting harder. That’s what we say.

Violent J and Shaggy then say this...

Juggalos. If you wanna get shocked again, you got it. Let us put this on record right now. We don’t need any Bloody Brothers to get wicked. We don’t need any Dark Lotus to let the darkness out. You want ICP at it’s wickedest? You got it. Get ready to have nightmares and panic attacks, mutha fuckas, because you gonna see us at our most deadly come the 6th Jokers Card. Straight up.

No Bullshit. When is Bloody Brothers coming out? When is Dark Lotus coming out? Most importantly when is the mighty 6th coming out?

Shaggy answers...

It’s all our fuckin’ fault. Don’t blame Psychopathic Records for that shit; just blame us. Here is our problem.… We’ll get home from tour and even though we’ll only have a week off, we’ll jump right in the studio. We’ll get started on something really hot and almost forget that we have to go back on tour. So even though we’ll have to go back out on the road, and we really have no time to finish what we’ve started, we always still announce what we did! We just get too geeked up and we tell everyone IT’S COMING SOON! That’s our fault. That is what has been happening for over two years with Dark Lotus, and now it’s happening with Bloody Brothers! Now, we’re running around telling everybody about Bloody Brothers and we ain’t even got Lotus out yet! We truly apologize for us being so stupid and jumping the gun the way we do.

Violent J adds this...

We’ve been putting off Dark Lotus and promising Juggalos that record for two and a half years now. Well, let me finally drop the fuckin’ facts, Juggalos. The record is done! The entire album is finished and mixed. We just finished it this fuckin’ week. The album is called "Tales of the Lotus Pod." Yes, its finally done, DONE, it’s DONE!!! And it’s finished, too!

Shaggy and J continue...

We know we’ve also sucked about announcing the official line-up for Dark Lotus. Nobody really knows who’s in it or who ain’t! Over the last few years we’ve told Juggalos that everybody from Esham The Unholy to Vampiro are in the group. But now that the record is done, we will finally be able to tell you THE REAL DEAL... Get ready!!! The official members of Dark Lotus are:

VIOLENT J... JAMIE MADROX... SHAGGY 2 DOPE... BLAZE YA DEAD HOMIE... MONOXIDE and plus an unexpected secret member that your all hearing about for the first time. That special secret member is... MARZ!!! Yes M-A-R-Z!

Alex Abbiss jumps in...

Yes, Juggalos. Let the news be told. Marz is in Dark Lotus officially. He will join along for all Dark Lotus in-stores, tours, and everything Dark Lotus does as a group. Marz, however, is not officially signed to Psychopathic Records; but that is ONLY because he is already signed to another company and there is nothing we can do about it. But Marz is definitely the secret member to the Psychopathic’s Dark Lotus Family.

Violent J continues...

So there you all go. That is the real deal. DARK LOTUS "TALES OF THE LOTUS POD" is completed, and it has an official release date. In fact, Juggalos, it has 2 official release dates. I’ll let Jump Steady explain....

Jump Steady explains the big news...

Dark Lotus "Tales of the Lotus Pod" will be available in two special versions. You are hearing this news for the very first time right now! Nobody knew this flavor until now. There will be 2 different versions of "Tales of the Lotus Pod." The first version will be available only, and we mean ONLY at the Gathering of the Juggalos, and nowhere else. YOU MUST attend the Gathering of the Juggalos on Friday July 13th, 14th, or 15th in Toledo, Ohio to get this special version. What makes this version so special, you ask? Well for one thing the "Gathering Version" contains an extra song! This extra track will NOT be featured on the street version of the album. But that ain’t all. The "Gathering Version" also has a special CD cover and booklet. It’s clearly the special freshness version.

The "Gathering Version" of "Tales of the Lotus Pod," will quickly become the extremely hard to get and expensive version, so don’t miss your fuckin’ chance. Get to the Gathering and get your special version before you end up paying $100’s for it on eBay.

If you cannot make the Gathering this year... fear not, Juggalos. Of course you can still get the Dark Lotus album, but it won’t have an extra track. But that’s OK. The album is fat as fuck as it is. Exactly two weeks after the Gathering, on August 1st, 2001 the regular street version of "Tales of the Lotus Pod" will hit shelves worldwide. Dark Lotus is finally coming out! Whoooooooooo!

Violent J adds this...

Before we answer that shit about the Bloody Brothers and the 6th Jokers Card, I want to talk a li’l bit about the Dark Lotus record. I’m serious, yall. It’s fuckin’ scary. It contains REAL black magic. I’m talkin’ the real deal. Many of the songs on this album were recorded by candle light with garlic stems hanging above us. We followed the books exactly. Many times while we were reciting the albums lyrics, the temperature in the studio would drop below freezing. I’m telling you that many of the lyrics on "Tales of the Lotus Pod" are taken straight from real books of Black Magic.

It all started with these authentic books of Black Magic that we got from Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. No we didn’t go all the way there to get them or anything, but my brother (Jump Steady) was there years ago. He was in the Army and he was stationed deep in the dessert. He found the books and he brought them back for us. We dug into these books and cast real shit in the music! The album contains real spells and hexes. It’s the Dark Carnival expressed so hard you’ll feel it. Yo, recording this album was really, REALLY fuckin’ crazy.

I can’t front, though, we kind of got mad scared when all types of crazy shit started happening to us. I woke up one night with a faceless woman floating above my bed. I was so shook I couldn’t move. My dogs and I just laid there watching the spirit until it faded away. Another crazy point was when I woke up with a black crow in my fuckin’ bedroom. We had to call an animal ninja to come get it out! After a few things like that happened, we decided to change a few lyrics. Too much is too much! So we finally went back into the studio and changed some of the lyrics just a tiny bit so that Juggalos everywhere wouldn’t be getting haunted by wicked spirits just for singing the words. We changed some shit but hardly any. It’s almost exact by the book. But everybody should be okay... I hope. Be careful while you’re singing along to that album in your car because you have no idea what you might call up from the beyond.

Now listin‘... If you think this is a joke then fuck it. It might as well be. Just know this.… We already know that the album is going to sell no matter what. Juggalos are going to buy it everywhere no matter what. So don’t think we’re just making this black magic shit up. We’re telling you to be warned. because the album is definitely the wickedest shit we’ve done thus far. Not wicked as in cussing and being a badass, I mean wicked as in legit, REAL BLACK MAGIC. Take my warning for what it’s worth, y’all. At least now I can’t say I never warned you.

Now that we know when Dark Lotus is finally coming out, when can we expect Bloody Brothers and the 6th Joker’s card.

Shaggy answers...

Let’s not bullshit. We don’t know if Bloody Brothers will ever come out. We did a few cuts but it’s really along ways away. I ain’t even going to lie. It took every extra second we had just to finish Dark Lotus. The one thing we DON'T EVER DO is rush something. Except maybe Psychopathic Rydas. But that’s rushed only because it’s so easy to do. All the beats are ripped off. The music is all stolen from other rappers’ instrumentals. That makes it easy enough to do like two or three songs a day. When we do ICP, however, it’s more like we spend a week on every song. Some rappers move way faster than us in the studio, but we’re slower because we get much more involved. We cannot make music without the presence of The Dark Carnival. So we have to have the right amount of time to make our music. To answer the question about the Bloody Brothers album… all I can say is not this year, y’all. Sorry. Were trying as hard as we can to visit every city on tour, and make all that music at the same time is just too fuckin’ crazy.

Violent J adds...

As for the 6th Jokers Card…. Usually we never address a Jokers Card until it’s that Spirit’s era. However, the era of the Sixth seems to be rapidly approaching, so I will talk about it. We’ve told everybody in the past that we never will release the 6th Joker’s Card or any Joker’s Card again while we’re signed to Island / Def Jam Records. Island is too corporate and too large to properly handle a delicate project like the 6th. Island / Def Jam releasing the 6th Joker’s Card would be like a 200-foot giant trying to fit inside a Hot Wheels car. It must be done correctly. It’s the most important album of our mutha fuckin’ lives. Not just for me and Shaggy, but for many, many Juggalos as well.

We here at Psychopathic Records know exactly how to drop the 6th Joker’s card. We’ve had it planned for 10 years, and now we know the time is coming. Were going to do exactly what we set out to do 10 years ago. We ain’t changing shit. Especially now that major labels are involved. Fuck that. We’re going to do exactly what we said we’d do back when it was just us in Alex’s basement.

Alex Abbiss suddenly drops a business bomb...

Speaking of Island Records fucking things up, they fucked ICP and Twiztid up for the last time. People wanted news in this interview? We got news for that ass... Check this out. I am hereby making this announcement for the very first time. The Psychopathic Records family of ICP, Twiztid, and Blaze is once and for all leaving Island Records and heading to another label that I cannot give away at this time. All I can say is that it rhymes with "Dapitol Records" and it starts with a C. If you can’t figure that out, then you don’t need to know anything. Here is the deal. Island/Def Jam is enormous! They have so many million selling acts it’s amazing! They have DMX, Ja Rule, Jay Z, Nas, and on and on and on! They have no time to fuck with ICP and Twiztid because we are nothing like them other groups. Them other groups are easy to work. They just make a million dollar video, send it to MTV and BET and the rest is history. It don’t work like that with Psychopathic’s acts. We need street teams and road crews to work our shit. Island/Def Jam ain’t about none of that shit. Do you think that if Island was really involved with what ICP is doing, they would let shit like Rydas, and Psychopathics From Outer Space, and Dark Lotus and all of that shit go right by them? Fuck no! They would want their cut! Hell, we WANT them to have their cut and put out all of our shit! But every time we try it takes them four months to put out a record because their so backed up. Four Months? Fuck that. I’d rather drop that shit on the underground and have it out on Psychopathic in two weeks. Island is cool but we are way too different for that label.

Billy Bill adds...

Look, what many people don’t know is this.… When ICP first got dumped by Disney back in 1997, they signed with Island. At the time, Island was a small rock label. Everything was cool. We were great friends with everybody there. We liked Island’s President, their video people, their radio people, and all that. Well little did anybody know what was around the corner. Two years after we signed with them, they were bought! Universal Music came and purchased Island records out of nowhere. The first thing Universal did was fire the entire staff at Island! All of our friends and all the people that actually believed in ICP were all gone! Fired! Then Universal merged Island’s bands with Def Jam’s groups and now Def Jams’ people run everything at Island. Now Island’s official name is Island / Def Jam. The worst part about it is that none of the new folks at Island / Def Jam like ICP or Twiztid. That’s why we’re on our own. Psychopathic is just distributed by Island / Def Jam and nothing else. We’ll we want more record company support than that, and that is why we are leaving.

Alex Abbiss...

It takes time and it ain’t easy to just jump from one major label to another, but we’ve begun the long process. In about 6 months the entire transaction will have been made. Then we will be on the new label with new people actually getting behind ICP, Twiztid, and Blaze for a change.

Violent J explains something...

Look, I ain’t smart. I fuckin’ dropped outta school before I even had nut hairs. What I’m trying to say is that Psychopathic Records is our label. Island and them other labels just distribute our shit. They put it in the stores and make it so we ain’t so hard to find. All we ever hear Juggalos say is that they cannot find ICP anywhere. That’s why we need them. That’s why we need major label support. They get us out there so Juggalos can find it! That’s all they do for us. The Hatchet Man does the rest. Psychopathic Records does the real shit behind ICP, Twiztid, and Blaze. So fuck record labels. But anyway, fuck all that shit. Lets talk about something else. LET’S GET TO THE BIG SHIT....!

• CHAPTER 3 • 

 • INTERVIEWS • 

The 5 Dons Drop Bombs on Yo Moms • Chapter 1

 • JUGGALOGICAL • 

 • INTERVIEWS • 

The 5 Dons Drop Bombs on Yo Moms:

The Dons of Psychopathic Records and the Insane Clown Posse themselves have finally gotten together and spoken!!! Alex Abbiss, Jumpsteady, Billy Bill, Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope have all finally set the record straight!!! They truthfully answer every question brought before them. Like it, or not, but these are the facts!

Read on as they either confirm or squash almost every rumor out there. Let this historical memo serve as the true guidelines for the opinions of Psychopathic Records and the Insane Clown Posse.

What is the importance of this memo?

First Violent J explains...

"We are very aware of what is going on out there. Several groups of ninjas (mostly powered by websites and other rappers out there) are forming their own beliefs and viewpoints of what the "Juggalo World" is all about. Buy hey, that is all fine and dandy with us. Do whatever makes you happy ninjas! The term "Juggalo" was originally created by Shaggy and myself to describe "Followers of the Dark Carnival". We also used "Juggalo" to describe people like us. The scrubs of the world. Ninjas who had no love but their own love for each other. But if some people out there seem to think they know what being a "Juggalo" is all about better than we do, then run with it! Go ahead ninja! Do whatever you want homies! You are in control!

However, this letter is to set the shit straight with OUR Juggalos. We would like you all to know that Psychopathic and ICP only support the real Dark Carnival followers out there. Those that still and always will follow our original "JUGGALO" traditions.

It seems as if over time, some ninjas may have actually forgotten what the original Juggalo beliefs were all about. Or they just don't care... Some people are even telling US how things are supposed to be! Imagine that! There are actually some so-called Juggalos out there on the internet and in person that are actually attempting to tell ME what a Juggalo is!!! That's all cool and everything, but for the real Juggalos out there that are wondering what the hell is going on, this memo had to be written to explain our point of view on this madness!

It's simple. In OUR eyes (meaning ICP and Psychopathic's view) there are no Red-Juggalos or Blue-Juggalos. There are no East or West Juggalos. No old school or new breed Juggalos. No Juggalo Wolf Pacs. No fuckin' NWO Juggalos or any of that shit. We see no difference in male Juggalos and female Juggalettes. In our eyes there are only Juggalos! Juggalos are Juggalos! That goes for everybody that's following the tradition.

Insane Clown Posse, Twiztid, Blaze, and Psychopathic Records only recognize the straight up, Dark Carnival, original ass, mutha fuckin' Juggalos and nothing else. Got it? Good. Anything beyond that, is cool as hell, but you are on your own as far as we're concerned.

Shaggy Jumps in...

In our eyes, a Juggalo is mainly about 3 things. Psychopathic Record's music, each other, and the Dark Carnival. If your "Junkaloo Crew" doesn't fit that format, then y'all don't fit on our wagons. It's plain and simple. Don't expect to ever witness the real Dark Carnival's magic by using your own homemade blend of Junkaloo VooDoo.

As for the haters... If you don't like what we're saying then eat a dicksicle. If you think you are a "Traditional Juggalo" but you disagree with WHAT WE SAY a "Juggalo" is, then you ain't no fuckin' Juggalo. Fuck you! Go make up your own word! Try "Fuggin-hoe". I don't need anybody telling me what a Juggalo is. There are 1,000,000 other groups out there for you to support. I only want real Juggalos buying my shit. I don't want East Side Playa Jumpadoes or fuckin' O-Town Funky Jummaglos or any of that bullshit. Just traditional Psychopathic Records ICP, Twiztid, and Blaze Juggalos that still believe in the Dark Carnival. They are all we want, they are all we need, and they are all we'll ever care about. Fuck Everybody else".

Billy Bill Continues...

"We just want the world to know that Psychopathic Record's shit is only for Psychopathic Records Juggalos. Our gathering, or concerts, or parties, our music, wrestling events and shows in general are all structured for that one rare breed of Juggalo. Psychopathic Juggalos. It doesn't matter if your a brand new Juggalo or you've been down for 100 years as long as your a TRUE Hatchet Juggalo then we are there for you! All this is for YOU and only YOU! Its all for and about the original Juggalos that share our same believes in life, love, and music. That underdog scrub to the mainstream world. That mutha fuckin' Juggalo. That person nobody wants around them. We want them around us. Just like they are. They are our brothers and sisters.

As for all these other groups and crews forming their own version of Juggalos, and trying to rip off the only thing we're proud of in life... you fuckin' hoes don't tell us what a Juggalo is, we tell you! Don't kid yourself bitches.

So, if you read this memo and you find something you dislike about it, there is no need to get upset. Just join up with one of them new Jubbaloo posse's. Maybe they will take you in"

What bands of rap groups do you feel have the "Right" to refer to their audience as Juggalos?

Violent J answers first.

If the group or band is playing a show with us at the time, obviously we don't mind if they call out Juggalos! In fact we love it! For example, if a group or band is opening a show for us, Twiztid or Blaze, then it's all good. Yell Juggalo all you want because of course there would be mad Juggalos in the house. In that case, why not address them by name, right? But if the Psychopathic Records Family has absolutely nothing to do with the show at all, and some rapper or band is up on stage yelling "Juggalos  make some noise!!!" that's stale as fuck. That's just like some other band calling their fans "Dead Heads" in hopes that they'll follow them around the country too. If the Grateful Dead ain't around at the time, then that band ain't got no right addressing their audience as Dead Heads. That's Bullshit. To me it's just like some punk ass rapper calling himself a No Limit Soldier, even if he has nothing to do with No Limit Records. What kind of shit is that? Imagine if I ran around calling myself a "Wu Tanger!". And I was like "Wu Tangs in the hooouuussseeee!". How shitty would that sound? To me that's just as shitty as some group I don't even know calling their fans "Juggalos". Fuck that shit. Earn your own crowd and get off the Juggalos dick.

Let me break it down to you like this... Here is what the real problem is. Not only are some rap crews referring to their audience as Juggalos, but they are going even further. They are actually tricking the Juggalos into thinking they are down with us! That shit really pisses us off.

Here is how they do it. They'll start up a rap group or band. They'll copy our shit and rip us off as much as possible. Then they'll contact a popular Juggalo web site out there and make friends with them. Then that web site starts posting interviews and selling the groups t-shirts, CD's and all that shit. After a while, the rest of the Juggalo world sees this and suddenly assumes they are family with us! Next thing you know, these punk ass nobodies got every Juggalo out there thinking they are family!

Everywhere I go and everything I do, I'm constantly bombarded with questions about millions of horror core rap acts that say they know us. I don't have one ounce of love for not one of them fake ass bitch groups. All they are is coat riding faggots trying to take a short cut to success by fooling Juggalos. What I can't believe is that some of these Juggalo web sites are actually letting it happen!

Jump Steady jumps in...

Some of these groups may have actually did a show our a tour with ICP or Twiztid at one point. Then they take that one lil' bit of prestige and fool millions of Juggalos with it. They tell everybody that will listen about how Juggalos down they are and worst part is mad Juggalos believe it! That's fuckin' bullshit. All of us (Psychopathic and true Juggalos) hand built this Juggalo world. It took us more than 10 years of blood, sweat, and love for each other to do it. Well, we finally did it. Our Juggalo world now exists. And we damn sure ain't gonna let any punk that raps fool us and just jump in our family. We have too much respect for what a Juggalo is to have that happen.

Alex Abbiss finishes by saying this...

You can trust us! TRUST THIS: If we (Psychopathic Records) tell you a band or group is part of OUR Juggalo family, then you can damn sure believe there going to be the SHIT! You can bet they've earned your respect. We don't bring anything before you Juggalos until we feel they deserve YOU. Anybody out there claiming to be down with the real JUGGALO PSYCHOPATHIC FAMILY that ain't named ICP, Twiztid, or Blaze is lying to you. Straight up. They are all fuckin' lying. Don't be a fool and believe that shit.

Sure, you might like their music and buy all their records. That's fine with us! Who cares? We could give a fuck less! Kid Rock sells a lot of albums too. But Kid Rock ain't claiming the word Juggalo either! He ain't fooling you all into thinking he's down with us. But these other little rip off rap groups are! So fuck them!

Jelly Nuts Drops some truth on subjects for local Detroit are Juggalos...

Now, for the local Juggalos here in Detroit that are always wondering what's up with this band and that group, let me tell you how it really is. I absolutely hate to drop names so I won't, but let me just say this.

Local Juggalos in Detroit might know of a group that Twiztid was once part of years ago. Some ninjas might even want to know if Twiztid's old crew is down with us? Are they cool with ICP and Twiztid? Do we consider them family? What about other local groups out there? You hear their names all over Juggalo Fan sites everywhere! Of course Twiztid's old crew and most of there other groups will tell you THAT THEY ARE family with us all day long! But Juggalos, just remember this, Twiztid left that group for a reason. And those other groups are not signed to Psychopathic for reasons! Can't you ninjas see that? Think about it. If everything really was all fine and dandy with them groups and us, why wouldn't they all be signed to Psychopathic? No offence to Twiztid's old crew at all (and we hate to use them as an example), but they ain't down with us! They ain't down with Psychopathic, and they sure as fuck ain't down with Twiztid! Neither are any of these other acts. 

Yes ninjas, we wish all these groups luck and success. Fuck, it's obvious that they all have great talent and they could make it all the way to the top on their very own. But as for them trying to fool Juggalos into thinking they run with us, they need to quit that shit. They need to find their own path to success the same way we had to. Shit, we did it without any web site to jump on but our own! We make it here on our very own!

Now, if some ninjas out there still want to feature these groups up on your JUGGALO WEBSITES and refer to them as JUGGALO MUSIC, then go ahead. We would never try to tell y'all what to do and how to live. We fuckin' love y'all. But just remember this... traditional style Psychopathic Records Juggalos (meaning ICP, Twiztid, and Blaze Juggalos) are the only Juggalos we'll ever recognize. That's a fact.

What about National Acts? Who is down with the Psychopathic Family?

Shaggy answers first...

Nobody. We have friends out there, but to consider somebody Family means we share the Hatchet Man on our shit. If they ain't Psychopathic Records, then they ain't family. Right now our family is small, but at least you know it's REAL. We have no watered down bullshit acts that are just stamped "Psychopathic" to make money. Psychopathic right now is only ICP, Twiztid, and Blaze. We have a few more people we are working with, but they won't get introduced to the Juggalos until they are ready.

Jump Steady regulates...

I'll tell you why we don't consider anybody Family unless they are e on Psychopathic Records. Every band and every record company out there all have their very own ways of doing things. Psychopathic does too. We like to stay broke. What I mean by that is, we might not have a lot of money laying around, but that's because we put it all back into our shit. We spend hella loot on stage sounds, stage lights, and all kinds of crazy shit. Anybody that has ever seen a Psychopathic Records Act live will tell you that! We put mad loot into our shows! Some people don't know this but we spend lots of extra loot just to make Juggalos smile.

Alex Abbiss schools some unknown facts...

Let me give y'all some examples of the Psychopathic business mentality. Our tactics are often considered bad business but it is just our way of doing things. Check this out...Nobody knows this, but we lose money every month on our comic book. Each issue puts us farther into the hole. The cost of that full color book, the artist rates and putting a CD single in each issue is ridiculous. People don't know this either but last year's Gathering of the Juggalos put us behind $50,000. Here is more unknown facts. The JCW tour last year put us under $50,000. Injuries, lights, stage sets, and bussing all them fuckin' wrestlers was a business man's nightmare! But we feel it was all worth it, because Juggalos love us even more for it.

We keep doing things this way because that's just how we do it. We like to keep Juggalos satisfied. With only 3 hands on the label, we have to keep thinking of new shit to do. Wrestling videos, documentaries, comics, dolls, comic conventions, instores, surprise shows and parties and our newest project... the helly large MORTON'S LIST. That is just the Psychopathic Records way of doing shit. We are about more than just music. We want to provide a Juggalo way of life.

Violent J interrupts...

Getting back to your original question of what other bands out there do we consider family? None. Nobody wants to be family with us. Most bands or groups out there ain't willing to make the same sacrifices we do. 

What about groups or bands that you are cool with? Maybe they ain't family, but ICP and Psychopathic Records do have friends out there, right?

Violent J is quick to answer...

People always want to know who we are down with. Straight up, fuck every band out there. That's how we feel most of the time. There ain't a band out there that's gonna help me before they help themselves, even if they had to step on me to do it. Of course, we have friends out there, but they are all just friends. We are down with Marz of course... Three Six Mafia, Vanilla Ice, Ice T, Public Enemy, Snoop Dogg, Biohazard, Krazy Bone, Bloodhound Gang, Suicide Machines, Esham, Natas, Mindless Self Indulgence , and lots more I guess. But them are just groups we hang with from time to time. With the exception of Three Six Mafia, Vanilla Ice, Esham, and Marz, I really don't even know if any of them other groups would even admit that they are cool with us in public. In fact, I doubt they would. That's OK through. We have a bad rep I guess. Whatever.

Shaggy says...

Whatever. J talks to people. I don't really have nothing to say to anybody. I like Ice, Marz, Three Six and them, but whatever. AIn't nobody really down with us but Psychopathic. People hate us... because they fear us.

Jumpsteady continues...

Look. Business is what it is. Every band is mostly concerned with their own situation and that's that. Sure, we all have friends and acquaintances out there, but in this business everybody is more like your competition than your buddy. Much love to everybody out there. There are a lot of groups that really busted their ass to get where they are, and the last thing they owe is us or anybody else a fuckin handshake.

• CHAPTER 2 • 

 • INTERVIEWS •